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Kick out the “Bloody Bismillah”

   Posted by: William Gomes   in Bangladesh, Islam, Politics, Research & Analysis

Secularism in Danger in Bangladesh

Secularism in Danger in Bangladesh

The Islamic terrorist activities resulting in death of uncounted innocent and spreading the message of hearted and violence. Bangladesh have had failed to deal with the Islamic terrorism by the years. The root of Islamic terrorism was rooted historically by defining the Islam as a “state religion”. The historical rotten root of political Islam and Islamic extremism was rooted by the long absence of secular parliament democracy.

By knocking down the secular ascent of the constitution of Bangladesh the dirty politicians characterized Bangladesh from secular to Islamic Bangladesh.

Many nations all around the world have already successfully introduced anti terrorism legalization including Australia, Canada, India, New Zealand, Pakistan, South Africa, and United States. It’s the need of time for Bangladesh to introduce and well and constructive Anti terrorism legislation

It’s ironically truth that the law alone will not be able to deter Islamic terrorism in Bangladesh. Before introducing anti terror law the government should first should first kick out the “bloody bismillah” and the root of Islamic extremism the state religion “Islam”. The nation and nationals should be indoctrinated with spirit of secularism and step forward to a better and progressive Bangladesh.

The anti terrorism law should be extra ordinary law that fits with the pure democratic standard and distinct from the laws of Bangladesh penal code. In drafting the law the government should keep in mind that in implementing the law no one should be able to use the law as political instrument.

In drafting the law government should keep in mind that the law should not only focus on the present or past activities of any Islamic extremist group but should focus on with a manner to curb the root of Islamic extremities from the society.

We have experienced the Islamic extremist are recruiting new members inside of the prisons of Bangladesh during their imprisonment. The Islamic extremist indoctrinated the ill fated the Muslims inside of the prisons of Bangladesh. In a situation like this Bangladesh government should start a new prison only for the Islamic extremists and insure the proper correction and teaching towards justice and peace.

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56 comments so far

 1 

Well, the roots of Bangladesh were never bound by religion. At least the Bangladesh before 1905. My roots are there, as I know. I have learnt from the tales I heard from my parents and my grandparents that there were Muslims and Hindu staying together as brothers all the way, before partition. Things changed after that time. Why do you forget that the base of a religious country was not what the Bangladeshi citizens wanted. It was done by the Muslim League, who wanted Bangladesh to be a part of their Islamic Pakistan. It started all from there – a brain child of Md. Ali Jinnah!

Anyways, I always support a secular country. I’m an Indian and I have grown seeing India as a secular country. But then, what do you think of the country now? How secular it is? It depends on the thought process – the idealistic approach and the feelings of brotherly hood. A secular country is as much secular as its citizens are. Well, this is what I feel.

hearted >> hatred*

April 8th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
 2 

@Tan, Md. Ali Jinnah I think also is responsible for this. But there is nothing that could be done by us to prevent this from happening. My father, a great supporter of Awami League thought that if AL came, then everything would become fine but till now, nothing is. There are not just that hope but there is belief in every Hindu of BD that if it is AL, then BD will become secular but as you see, there is no hope.

April 26th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
mt
 3 

Kick out the “Bloody Bismillah” !!!!!!!!!!!!!! what is this u bloody hindu??????????

May 19th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Kalam
 4 

First of all, you need look at the “author” box to see who wrote the article. It was written William Gomes, who is not a Hindu but a Christian.

Second, the influx of anti-Muslim attitude on this site shows the real picture of modern Muslims. No wonder most Muslim countries are still in dark and floating on the vibrant hatred against everyone. While we see people from all religions thriving on the wave of modernism and pluralism I see Muslims ascribing themselves to ages old hatred and animosity.

May 20th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Bangladesh1971
 5 

Listen Fuck Ups (or hindos),,, Bangladesh is not a country for the hindo motherfuckers… You wanna fuck why don you go to your ‘OWN’ terrorist country which is INDIA and practice incest? Get the Fuck out of our country you inbred jerk-offs!!!

May 24th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Kamal
 6 

Muslims bring their hatred to the west and breeds them. The comment by above poster is the perfect example. My suggestion to you would be not to bring your hatred and war here.

It’s funny how most comments posted on this site by Muslims are really hateful. It really scares me thinking what kind of education is being inserted by their religious leaders in mosques or whatever.

Islam today is the cause of 95% of world atrocities. We need to figure out why Muslims become so violent and remain so hateful. There is a subtle dislike for Muslims everywhere and every community simply because of their reluctance to assimilating and also pursuing hatred all the time.

Take your hatred and go back to your Bangladesh. Don’t spread them here.

May 24th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Hindu lover
 7 

you go Kamal…fuck you bangladesh1971! and bitch, learn how to spell “Hindu”…u good for nothing infidel…wat r u 13? go hug a koran or sumthin…

May 24th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
bangladesh1971
 8 

Talk to the HAND and keep watching my ass u Hindo pigs. Why do I need to even learn the name oh such a lame ass tribe, hindo? fuck.

.. oh and get the hell of our country.. u have a huge wasteland (India) to raise you grandchildren.

May 25th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Quranintoilet
 9 

Yo, talk to the quran in my toilet that is stuck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W3iTKKAESE

i love summer cuz i love seeing your fucked up country, bangladesh getting more fucked.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Bangladesh+braces+Bengal+storm/1506227/story.html

haha who wants to live in that country anyways.

May 25th, 2009 at 8:37 am
bangladesh1971
 10 

haha look at these losers… how desperate… contradicting their ownselves… staying and saying they cant… lame… and um not bothered abt anyone’s religion u sucka.. um an agnostic.. not a prisoner following some granddaddy’s fabricated tradition, which is what u assholes say religion… again, losers… :P

May 25th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
AllahSucksCock
 11 

here we have a disgruntled Muslim, who has such a low confidence on perverted Islam that he is afraid to admit his identity.

Here’s the thing…i don live in bangladesh and never will…that’s a hell on earth…such a poor, illiterate and disguisting third world country…

If there is anything more shittier than Quran, then that’s Bangladesh.

http://new.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15253

“During a recent operation police also arrested 107 men who were exploiting women and a 14-year-old Bangladeshi girl who had been forced into prostitution was discovered.”

I bet your 107 Muslim arab brothers loved exploiting your Bangladeshi sister. haha. I love arabs and Pakis dat’s why. They fuck up Bangladesh GOOD!

May 26th, 2009 at 5:15 am
S. Alam
 12 

I am a Bangladeshi Muslim and I totally agree with this post. Secularism is the way forward for any country, Bangladesh has to learn to cooperate – otherwise we will lose an entire culture we have been fighting for.

I would also like to apologize on behalf of the intolerant lunatics that have been bashing Bangladeshi minorities. No human being should have to stand to such trash.

June 18th, 2009 at 6:04 am
Admin
 13 

Glad to finally see a sensitive post. Welcome to the site, Alam.

June 18th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Aiemen Razieq
 14 

From what I’ve seen, Islam and terrorism is entangled together. I don’t see a religion such as Islam advocates violence. The texts of the Quran had just been wildly misinterpreted. That is all.

I also don’t understand an extreme sense of hate between Muslims and Hindus here. People talk about peace nad love but all I can see is injustice happening on both sides of the divide.

The recipe for love and peace is simple. Respect. And people like Quranintoilet and AllahSucksCock are people who don’t know to respect others. Respect others and others will do likewise. More hatred will be bred. To put this into perspective, Muslims are angered which in turn, aim their frustration on societies in which you guys belong to.

June 29th, 2009 at 4:52 am
 15 

Aiemen, I second your thoughts… I have no love for the two commentators that you have mentioned and totally disagree that a religion can preach what the Muslim around the world are doing.

I am not against Quran – I have not read it in whole and I have no indepth knowledge of the same, but I still can assure that it would not ask anyone to kill people of other religions and sects and establish a one world under Islam!

To the utter surprise and as a slap to the Islamic thoughts, the Muslims around the world ARE ACTUALLY DOING SO… You must agree with me, that the Epicenter of Terror in the World is Pakistan – Afganistan – Iran – Iraq – and similar Islamic nations – what does this mean? It means that the people indulged in such inhuman acts are mostly from the Muslim Countries… this is what I and other Blogmates here would agree too.

I am Not against Islam – I am against the deeds of the incorrigible nincompoops in Bangladesh and Pakistan and other Islamic countries who are molesting people from other sects and inturn bringing bad name to Islam too…

… Hope I am clear in my stand here…

June 29th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Neer
 16 

While I do condemn the hatred of a couple of anti-Muslim commentars from above, the flame wars were started by racist comments by a Muslim.

Good to see you decided to ignore those comments by your Muslim brothers.

A few “peaceful” quotes from Quran.

Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. (98:6)

Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (8:55)

Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. (58:22)

The third quote even asks you to betray ur friends if they are not Muslims. So, I am not too sure what do you mean when you say Islam doesn’t advocate violence

June 29th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Aiemen Razieq
 17 

Tan, yes you are very clear on your stand. I know it from your first comment already. Thanks for clarifying that again.

Neer, the three quotes you gave doesn’t imply that Islam advocates violence. The first states the punishment that “Those who reject the truth” will be in Hell in the Hereafter. It doesn’t say that Muslims can attack non-Muslims, per say.

The second quote states Allah’s views on non-believers, again doesn’t mention the allowance of attacks on non-Muslims by Muslims.

The third one I’m not too sure. I’ll check on the whole Surah.

And yes, the whole flame war did started because of mt. But, we don’t know the real person behind that name, mt, because it’s a cyber world here, man.

July 3rd, 2009 at 5:44 am
Aiemen Razieq
 18 

I forgot one more thing, Tan, it’s that the Talibans are drunks (not allowed in Islam), rapists (likewise) and robbers during their conquest of Afghanistan. That’s just an example of the many terror groups we have. So who are they? Muslims or just people with Islam printed on their papers?

July 3rd, 2009 at 5:47 am
Sanziduk Haque Seefat
 19 

I am a Bangladeshi muslim and am very proud to be that as from my childhood I’ve been learning how Religious Harmony makes the society and the nation peaceful. I believe it very strongly and have seen very clearly about the religious harmony of the people of different religions here.And its the historical truth that before the coming of the British people such things like blaming each other,hating each other never happened.Our history says that.So it will be the legal way if we,the people of the subcontinent don’t blame or hate each other.I am very much astonished and have got a deep pain after seeingsuch non-sense id’s like – Bloodybismillah,Quran in my toilet and mostly Allah sucks cock!!! How dangerous guys! Is this a way to respect others?you may have different ideas,different beliefs but You also have to respect others,this is what most of our Bangladeshi people believe and do.So it will not be a good effort to make division among the simple and religious people from all religions in Bangladesh.DONT DO THAT.If you have any misinterpretesion just clear it.Humanity is the main thing.THE QURAN,GITA,BIBLE always speaks for that.SO PLEASE KNOW ABOUT IN DETAIL BEFORE BLAMING ISLAM AND THE OTHER RELIGIONS.Making such stupid,non-sense and idiotic id’s would not bring any peace but would bring a lot of difficulties. And last of all,to the authors who blamed and hated Bangladesh, I just want to say them that you don’t have to indulge in us or whatever.WE ARE ALREADY FINE.The problem of terrorism is not in Bangladesh but it is around the world.The new government is very intimate to solve that problem and they are trying a lot too.SO AGAIN, DON’T TRY TO DIVIDE THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTRY. We’ve gained independence sacrificing 30 lakhs lives.So its very important matter for us. Hope to see such id’s removed or banned by the admin. I FURTHER SAY, IF YOU HAVE ANY MISCONCEPTION CLEAR IT FROM OTHER FRIENDS BUT DONT HURT ANYBODY’S BELIEF.May Allah bless all the people and gives love to that kind of people who have nothing but a hateful mind. HOPE EVERYBODY WILL BE CONCERNED ABOUT NOT TO ATTACK ANY BODY AND NOT TO HURT ANYBODY’S BELIEF SAYING SUCH STUPIDIOUS WORDS. JUST REMEMBER THAT,PLEASE.

August 16th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Arnab
 20 

We all seem to have drifted away from what was intended on this article. The word, “bloody” was not meant to be an insult on Islam but rather to cause a reaction to the existence of Islamism on Bangladeshi constitution.

The questions we need to answer would be if it’s fair for Hindus and other non-Muslims to have an Islamized constitution. As you said, the nation was liberated by Bengalis regardless of their religious affiliations.

Although I have to mention that Hindus did suffer much more than Muslims during the war as Hindus were specifically targetted. However, the current constitution contains “Bismillah” and Islam as the national religion. This is a slap on non-Muslims, who worked for the nation.

When we talk about unity we also need to realize if we are creating an atmosphere for unity. It has nothing to do with terrorism or Islam in this matter. Bangladesh will have unity if it ever respects all of its citizens with equal dignity and respect.

August 16th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Zunaed
 21 

i couldn’t remember the name of the president who said a word some days ago that is,america want to keep fight between INDIA & PAKISTAN,as same here we see the most topics r written by a cristian who insisting hindus to hate muslims… shame on hindu & muslims that we couldn’t find our enemys…

August 21st, 2009 at 9:37 am
Zunaed
 22 

it is so simple that u hindus won’t like the muslims while in hinduism brammans don’t like the kshatrio & shudro’s,,so it’s not a matter that u don’t like us,1stly u should love ur own religious people,then u should come to us…

August 22nd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Now
 23 

It’s not us, who don’t like Muslims but the whole world has exactly the same complain against Muslims and Islam. I have talked to people from Africa, Middle-East, China, North America and they all have the some opinion of Muslims. When the people from all over the world have problems with Muslims then it’s a problem of Muslims that they need to sort out.

Brahmins not liking Kayasthas or Shudras is a HUGE generalization. Ram wasn’t even a Brahmin. There are a few rotten eggs in the basket but that should not be the basis of comparison.

August 23rd, 2009 at 10:26 am
Zunaed
 24 

exactly what i’m saying,”There are a few rotten eggs in the basket but that should not be the basis of comparison.”u told it right..

there r 125crores of muslims but how many of them r suiciede bomber??u can’t generalise all muslims..

look @ my point….
when people become a suiciede bomber??

u americans & westerns becomes so much materialistics,for that u need huge oil to run ur machiens,,but u don’t have oil,so what should u do??u need a supplier who sells oil @ low price,but no one is ready for that..but u can’t handle crisis,,,that is why u make a story of terrorism,& insist ur power to the middle east to get oil easily…

u call Hitler was a terrorist,u call Vagat sing was a terrorist,u call mahatma gandhi was a terrorist,u call Omor Mukter was a terrorist… but remember all of them were the hero for their country..so its ur own theory to blame & make war…now u’ve come to muslim to finish them….& making some good story…demolishes the humanity..
who has the super power,?who can destroy? America..America…America…

now about ur survey..

u also generalising here,, u might gone to ur friend like israel,england,australia,russia,etc.& they said that they have problems with the muslims..but survey can’t b 1 sided..u should go to iraq,afganistan,pakistan etc also to ask what is the problem??

i think u don’t have any ideas about religion,

Ramayan isn’t a fundamental hindu scripture,u may reffer from Vedas…

brahmans don’t like the kayasthas” i said that coz,1 ly love can make this world a beautiful place..we should love each other,not 1ly blaming..

bye..

August 24th, 2009 at 3:24 am
Now
 25 

First of all your English is so ridiculous. Are you in grade 6? Take some English classes.

Ramayana is a fundamental part of Hinduism as well as Mahavarat, Vedas, Upanishad etc. In reality there are some “evil” characters, who were religious Brahmins…such as “Ravan.”

However, other than Brahma no great Hindu characters were Brahmins. For instance, Judhisthir, Arjun, Krishna, Shiva, Durga, etc etc were not Brahmins. On the other hand, Manasha Devi was a Shudra.

Nowhere in the vedas it gives Brahmins a higher status than Shudras or Kayasthas. It was a few powerful Brahmins and Kshatriyas and their selective interpretations gave rise to discrimination.

Therefore, do some studies before talking about theology.

Also, no one thinks Gandhi was a terrorist other than Muslims.

August 24th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Zunaed
 26 

I feels shy,when u say that Ramayan & Mahavarat are Fundamental Hindu scripture…

i think ur head is full of shit..

nothing more to say..

i don’t like to carry this topic anymore….

August 25th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Zunaed
 27 

i’m not bloody englishmen like u,so i might do some mistake,

but i think people understood my opinion,,if i hurts any one’s religious view please forgive me…

May Allah bless u all…

August 25th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Admin
 28 

No swearing allowed, Zunaed. Don’t forget this is a Hindu site. This is your final warning.

And yes, Mahabharat and Ramayan are indeed fundamental part of Hinduism. Gita came out of Mahabharat. The tradition of Durga Puja came out of Ramayan.

August 26th, 2009 at 6:11 am
Zunaed
 29 

i don’t have any interest in this quarrel..

August 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Zunaed
 30 

According to Swami Vivekananda, “the accumulated treasury of spiritual laws discovered by different persons in different times” constitutes the sacred Hindu texts. Collectively referred to as the Shastras, there are two types of sacred writings in the Hindu scriptures: Shruti (heard) and Smriti (memorized).

Sruti literature refers to the habit of ancient Hindu saints who led a solitary life in the woods, where they developed a consciousness that enabled them to ‘hear’ or cognize the truths of the universe. Sruti literatures are of two parts: the Vedas and the Upanishads.

There are four Vedas:

The Rig Veda -”Royal Knowledge”
The Sama Veda – “Knowledge of Chants”
The Yajur Veda – “Knowledge of Sacrificial Rituals”
The Atharva Veda – “Knowledge of Incarnations”
There are 108 extant Upanishads, of which 10 are most important: Isa, Kena, Katha, Prashna, Mundaka, Mandukya, Taitiriya, Aitareya, Chandogya, Brihadaranyaka.
Smriti Literature refers to ‘memorized’ or ‘remembered’ poetry and epics. They are more popular with Hindus, because they are easy to understand, explains universal truths through symbolism and mythology, and contain some of the most beautiful and exciting stories in the history of religion world literature. The three most important of Smriti literature are:

The Bhagavad Gita – The most well known of the Hindu scriptures, called the “Song of the Adorable One”, written about the 2nd century BC and forms the sixth part of Mahabharata. It contains some of the most brilliant theological lessons about the nature of God and of life ever written.
The Mahabharata – The world’s longest epic poem written about 9th century BC, and deals with the power struggle between the Pandava and the Kaurava families, with an intertwining of numerous episodes that make up life.
The Ramayana – The most popular of Hindu epics, composed by Valmiki around 4th or 2nd centuries BC with later additions up to about 300 CE. It depicts the story of the royal couple of Ayodha – Ram and Sita and a host of other characters and their exploits.

August 27th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Zunaed
 31 

The basic scriptures of Hinduism are the Vedas. The major and most popular Hindu texts include the Bhagavad Gita, the Upanishads, and the epics of Ramayana and Mahabharata.

August 27th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Zunaed
 32 

The Itihasas (Sanskrit for ‘Histories’), or supplementary Vedic literature, helps explain the rituals of the Vedas and the highly compressed philosophy of the Vedanta-sutras by using historical events of the universe and factual stories of many great sages, demigods, and so forth.

The Mahabharata
Included in the Itihasas is the Mahabharata, written by Srila Vyasadeva. It is an historical epic about the great kingdom of Bharatavarsa, or the region of India. It contains 110,000 couplets making it the longest poem and greatest epic in world literature. It is divided into 18 sections called parvas, such as the Adi Parva, etc. It is a treasure house of Indian lore and holds within it a code of life for ethical, social and spiritual relations. Throughout this great epic every sort of human situation is described and every kind of emotion is aroused. There is a saying that if it is not in the Mahabharata then it is not to be found.

The Mahabharata deals with the activities of the Pandavas and Krishna’s relations, as well as topics that include the creation of the world, history of the sages, dharma, politics, military strategies, proper behavior of a king, and ways of spirituality and devotion to God. It includes the essence of the Upanishads and Vedic teachings, and the famous Bhagavad Gita.

The Mahabharata also explains a great variety of historical incidents, mainly consisting of the story of how the demoniac Kuru dynasty cheated the family of pious Pandavas time and time again out of their rightful heritage of the kingdom of northern India. Finally, after the Pandavas are exiled to the forest and attempted peaceful means to gain their right to the throne, the epic centers around the eighteen day battle at Kuruksetra, a place which is still found in Madhyadesa, a three hour train ride north of Delhi. There the Pandava army defeated the Kurus and their soldiers. This is also where Sri Krishna speaks the Bhagavad Gita to His friend Arjuna just before the battle takes place.

The Bhagavad Gita
The Bhagavad Gita is from chapters 25 to 42 of the Bishma-parva section of the Mahabharata. It is a classic of Indian literature and considered the essence of all Vedic knowledge. It is the indispensable Upanishad and the important handbook or guide for traveling the spiritual path to God realization. It is especially good for those who do not have much time for reading or who cannot go very deeply into studying the Vedic literature. It contains knowledge of the soul, law of karma, reincarnation, attaining the Supreme, knowledge of God, and the essential purpose of life. It ultimately reveals the supremacy of the path of devotion, bhakti-yoga, as the best means for regaining our awareness of our relationship with the Supreme Lord. More importantly, the Bhagavad Gita is the direct instruction from God to His devotee. The Mahabharata is especially meant to draw the attention of people to the Bhagavad Gita through the format of an exciting, historical adventure, which is certainly found in the Mahabharata.

The Ramayana
The Ramayana is a similar epic, consisting of 24,000 verses, and first written during the time of Lord Ramachandra by the great poet Valmiki, which describes the life of Lord Ramachandra, an incarnation of God, and His wife Sita. This is also a most touching and exciting adventure which explains how Lord Ramachandra lived in the forest and fought against and killed the great demon Ravana and his armies in order to rescue His wife, Sita, who had been kidnapped. Many other stories are included in this storehouse of wisdom that has been an inspiration for thousands of years to all people who have read it. In the incarnation of Lord Ramachandra, God appears as the perfect king and ruler, and inspires all His subjects with the greatest love for Him.

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Even though the Itihasas are accepted as supplementary Vedic literature, the acharyas such as Shankara, Ramanuja, and Madhva have all presented the Itihasas as valid Vedic evidence and wrote commentaries on Bhagavad Gita.
Actually Shankara thought the Gita was in fact the epitome of the essentials of all Vedic teaching. Madhva, commenting on the Vedanta-sutras (2.1.6), quotes the Bhavisya Purana, which states, “The Rig-veda, Yajur-veda, Sama-veda, Atharva-veda, Mahabharata, Pancharatra, and the original Ramayana are all considered Vedic literature. The Vaishnava supplements, the Puranas, are also Vedic literature.”

The Chandogya Upanisad (7.1.4) mentions the Puranas and Itihasas as the fifth Veda. The Srimad-Bhagavatam (1.4.20) also states, “The four divisions of the original sources of knowledge [the Vedas] were made separately. But the historical facts and authentic stories mentioned in the Puranas are called the fifth Veda.”

Therefore, the Vedas themselves not only accept the four Vedas, the Upanishads, and Vedanta-sutras, but also the Mahabharata, Bhagavad Gita, the Ramayana, and the Puranas as being authentic Vedic literature.

The point is, to be accepted as Vedic literature it must present the same purpose as the original texts. But if it deviates from the Vedic conclusion or is a hodgepodge of various concocted philosophies, as are many viewpoints that one will find merged under the name of “Hinduism,” then it cannot be relied upon.

Therefore, to be sure something is authorized, we only accept the established Vedic teachings that are supported in the many Vedic texts. So Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism, which do not refer to or support the conclusions of the Vedic texts, are considered non-Vedic, although outgrowths of Vedic philosophy and accepted as part of Hinduism by some.

August 27th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Now
 33 

What are you trying to say here? Your copy and paste materials prove exactly what I was saying.

August 27th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Ritan
 34 

Thank you Zunaed for you most rich comments.

August 27th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Ritan
 35 

I am a Bangladeshi Hindu. Zunaed your comment is more informative and rich as you tried to know about Hinduism. Some correction is needed…Gita at 33277 BC and Mohabharata is at same time. Ramayana was 10-12000 years ago. Vedas were the time of first religious form in the world.

Anyway, We have seen few very pathetic and nonsensical keyword and concepts in the above corresponding. The Keyword secularism, equal right are like as the brick wall. Somebody have been making politics and benefits. Becoz this is the keyword without involving any religion. But we have/had to entered into religion once upon a time in our life cycle. Then we can get the light silly sense about our own religion and started to hate others. As mentioned about Swamiji, we see in Chicago 1893 He delivered on Mohammad as the audience made parody on that great saint and his ism Islam. We worship to unique single GOD thru the various manifesto of GOD. Islam does it in single way. All type of ism is open to hindu. But no ism is allowed to islam. This is basic paradigm of two religion. I think you will understand that no type of philosophy was born in the world are not belongs to hiduism. So we can respect and take other ism easily. But in islam its mentioned only the muslims will achieve haven others to hell addressed them as a kafir. Many narrow sensible muslims using this concept and making conflict. But if we analyze it more that we can see…if anyone follow his ism properly he will be denoted as a muslim. I wanna criticize. There are no alternative of Mohammad, Jesus, Buddha, Vivekananda, Krishna in the world. But we must know each other deeply otherwise we will never bring peach in the world. In the ending speech Mohammad mentioned I will complain to Allah if any muslim insist, force and grab another non-muslim’s alive, ism and property at the end judge of Hashar. So we have to be broad more.

August 27th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Ritan
 36 

Sorry Gita was 3327 BC.

August 27th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Zunaed
 37 

thank you so much Ritan,

some people missjudged us,they only know the sentence,”kill the kafir,”
but the very next sentence is,”if anyone begging his life,then help him,& take him to a safe place,”

if anyone don’t believe Isa(saw)(Jesus),then he can’t b a muslim by any mean,coz,he was our Prophet.Quran consist a verse about Mariom(mother Mary).so,we accept all.

Ritan,at the ending speech of Muhammad(SAW) said,”lakum dinukum waliadin.” it means,”everyone has their own rights to obey their religion.”

Ritan, the Vishnu Purana 4.24 says, “When the practices taught by the Vedas and the institutes of law shall nearly have ceased, and the close of the Kali age shall be nigh, a portion of that divine being who exists of his own spiritual nature in the character of Brahma, and who is the beginning and the end, and who comprehends all things, shall descend upon the earth. He will be born as Kalki in the family of an eminent brahmin of Sambhala village, endowed with the eight superhuman faculties. By his irresistible might he will destroy all the barbarians and thieves, and all whose minds are devoted to iniquity. He will then reestablish righteousness upon earth; and the minds of those who live at the end of the Kali age shall be awakened, and shall be as pellucid as crystal. The men who are thus changed by virtue of that peculiar time shall be as the seeds of human beings, and shall give birth to a race who shall follow the laws of the Krita age, the Age of Purity. As it is said, “When the sun and moon, and the luner asterism Tishya, and the planet Jupiter, are in one mansion, the Krita age shall return.

One hindu research professor, in his stunning book, claims that description of avatar found in the holy books of hindu religion is in fact that of the prophet muhammad(s.a.w). A little while ago, in India a fact revealing book has been published, which has been the topic of discussions and gossip, allover the country. Amazingly the author of this book is a fair-minded famous professor, who happens to be a Hindu. His name is Pundit Vedaprakash Upadhai and the name of his fact revealing book is “kalki avtar”. The author is a hindu Brahmin by caste of Bengali origin. He is a research scholar, a seeker of the truth and a well known pundit in allahabad university. After years of research work, he published this book and other eight pundits have endorsed and certified his points of argument as authentic.
According to Hindu belief and their holy books, the description of the guide and the leader, named kalki avatar, fits that of prophet Muhammad(so.a.w)of Arabia. So the Hindus of the whole world should look into this new information not wait any longer for the arrival of kalki avatar (the spirit) as he already arrived 1400 years ago. The author produces following sound evidences from the vedas and other holy books of Hindu religion in support of his claim.

1. In purana (a holy book of Hindus) it is stated that kalki avatar would be the last messenger of god in this world for the guidance of the whole world and all human beings. (according to Islam, prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) is also considered the last messenger of god in this world who was sent to guide all human beings).

2. According to a Hindu religion prediction, the birth of kalki avatar,would take place in an isle which again according to Hindu religion is Arab region.

3. In books of Hindus, the names of the father and the mother of kalki avatar are given as vishnubhagat and sumaani respectively. if we examine the meanings of these names we shall come to a very interesting conclusion: take vishnubhagat vishnu (meaning god) + bhagat(meaning slave)= slave of god Allah (god) + abd (slave in Arabic) = slave of god (Abdullah in Arabic name of Mohammed’s father) sumaani = peace or calmness aamenah(Arabic) =peace or calmness (name of mother of prophet Muhammad (s.a.w).

4. In religious books of Hindus, it is mentioned that the staple food of kalki avatar would be dates and olives and he would be the most honest and truthful person in the region. Without any doubt the prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) is acclaimed to possess these qualities.

5. It is stated in Vedas (holy book of Hindu religion) that the birth of kalki avatar would take place in an honorable clan. This perfectly fits the quraysh where the prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) belonged to. (very honorable clan for more details u can read the history of prophet(s.a.w) to see the qualities that they possessed which made them one of the strongest clans).

6. God would teach kalki avatar through his messenger (angel) in a cave. Allah taught prophet Muhammad (s.a.w), through is messenger angel jibraeel(gabreal) in a cave known as gaar-e-hiraa(a cave in mount hiraa).

7. God would avail kalki avatar with a very speedy horse to ride and travel the whole world and the seven skies. indication of buraaque(horse) and me’raaj (the night when prophet traveled the seven skies).

8. God would also avail kalki avatar with divine help. This was particularly proved in the battle of uhud.

9. Another dazzling account given about kalki avatar was that he would be born on the 12th of a month. whereas the prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) was born on the 12th of the rabiul awwal (Islamic calendar).

10. Kalki avatar would be an excellent horse rider and a swordsman. The author here draws the attention of Hindus that the real days of horses and swords have gone and the present time is of guns and missiles. so it would be foolish on the part of those who still expect kalki avatar, who should be an excellent rider and swordsman to come. in fact, the divine book, holy qur’aan contains qualities and signs attributed to kalki avatar reflecting on the prophet Muhammad (s.a.w).

If the author of this book were a Muslim, he could have been arrested or he could have been murdered and all the copies of this book would have been confiscated. even a ban would have been extended on its further publications. a riot and violence would have broken out against innocent Muslims and their blood would have been shed. (these are just some of the things that could have happened as Muslims would be accused of false propaganda etc). however, these facts are verified and supported by the eight eminent pundits. what the author and the eight other eminent pundits say is that the Hindus who are still anxiously awaiting the arrival of kalki avatar are simply subjecting themselves to a never ending pain. because such a great messenger has come and departed from this world fourteen centuries ago.

You believe it or not,thats up to you now,
we will not insist you to believe,just understand the fact,come to the common terms,& love each other,make a bondage,make this world a beautiful place..

August 28th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Ritan
 38 

Junaed, I am sorry that I couldn’t agree with them. I have no idea about that pundit you have mentioned. But I know its stated in Bhagobad ” SombolaGramaMukashya Brammanashya Mohatmana, Bhobone Bishnujosha Kolki pradurbhaBishwati”. It means GOD Kolki will be incarnate at the house of Brammin Bishnujosha in the village of Sombol. The village Sombol is in state of Urissya of India. It also will be happen in the end of koli yugo i.e. after 400000 years. There are many consideration. This is not so silly.

1. In Gita its state God will come when evil act is being increased and HE will save all innocent and destroy satan in age after age. It will be continue endless.

2. We belive in incarnation as Krishna show his eternal expression(Bishwarup) in Gita why he is GOD but muslim doesn’t believe in incarnation. When we read about Mohammad, Isa, Msu, Nua, Ibrahim…there is no concept about incernation.

3. Worship to various manifesto of God is denote hinduism. It will be never form in single uniform.

4. In puran there is hints about few jugo avatar. It gave us the idea about strategy of avatar. But not defined about number and timming of all avatar.

5. Chaitanya Dev is our avatar since 550 years ago. It was hinted in Bhagobata too.

6. Ramakrishna Paramhansa is also the yugo avatar since 130 years ago.

Yaar, If you read vivekananda again it will be clear about incarnation, prophet and about various ism.

August 30th, 2009 at 3:46 am
Zunaed
 39 

yaa,we don’t believe in INCARNATION but The MESSANGER of allmighty ALLAH.

when there was no creature in the whole planet,the soul of Muhammad(SAW) was created.His soul was kept in “Lauhe Mahfooz.”

it is beyond our description & imagination.
we r not worthy to talk about them. & i don’t want to talk anymore..

Incarnation is a matter of belief not just a word,there are so many mess in the world now,so who is now incarnated..???

September 3rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
Shamsuddin
 40 

Absolutely agree!! Bismillah should be removed from the constitution and Islam should be removed as the official religion. Bangladesh has been farcically claiming to be a secular country for years and claims there is communal harmony! The Hindus cant even perform Durga Puja without Police protection…is that Communal Harmony? Can you imagine if muslims could not do their eid prayer in india or the US or in the UK???? Do the muslims ever think of that???

September 15th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Ritan
 41 

Zunayed I am sorry to say this is basic igo problem of you which is making unstable this world. Not a single false ever run for a thousand years just named “believe”.

If its believe its not smaller than truth. For we know our mother she is truth. But our father is just belived as its acknowledged by our mother but it may be truth or false.

Our soul is eternal and it is immortal which has no birth and death as it is believed in Hinduism. Not only that All souls (in the sense of material world) are a single soul nothing else there. It is the basis of Hindu Ideology.

I know about Mohamad’s earliest existence. “La ilaha illahlahu mahumuddur rasuluaah” is the sentence from Adam-al Islam and was beginning point of Islamic ideology. Yes we are concious about Messenger and Incernation concept.

Incernation is not manufacturing production. I know you wanna talking that its a bogus concept as why as infinity instinct of GOD how to placed in limitted human being form. But its wrong that GOD is not a concept of inifite material being. Its the matter of infinite awareness and realization. Our gerat saints proved it many times. So don’t try to teach about incernation.

I have remind a story of Vivekananda…
There was a little pond where have fox. the little fox was born and grew up there. Oneday a Big fox come from the sea. The big fox asked to little fox “How are you ?”. The liitle fox replied where from you ? Then the big fox replied I am from sea. The little asked excitedly your sea is lager then this pond ? He again jumped here to there in the pond and told is large like it? The big fox is silence and go back.

We should come out from the little pond tro understand other properly with adequete respectation.

Bye

September 18th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Scion Anjir
 42 

Hello everyone.
I am a bangladeshi muslim.But i am not that much into my religion and i dont care what other religions do or follow.But seeing the mud throwing in this post made me burst into laughter.
Firstly, I admit that hindu minorities are facing socio cultural as well as religious terrorism in bangladesh.But i also understand and know that these are not common practices in bangladesh and are discreet occasions.
Secondly, muslims all over the world are facing worse than this where as we are fighting over an issue that is not supported by all of the community.If u raise ur voice against mankind, u shud start from palestine to Iraq…but also and definately bangladesh.
Thirdly,solvent and rich Hindus in bangladesh are mostly earning here and building and enriching their assets in India (Specially Kolkata).How can a person of any religion being a bangladeshi support this?Its a national issue that we do not look at…
Finally, we in bangladesh are muslim bangalis.From the very begining the british were against us.The pakis thought we shud be separated from our bangali identity whereas, the indians tried to separate us from our muslim identity.So from generation to generation we are suppressed.
We enjoy the diwali, we say our eid prayers, we eat sweets on puja….all we tried to be is liberated.But i dont understand why a group of people always try to put on a tag on us???

Stay safe and let there be light.

Scion Anjir

September 27th, 2009 at 4:03 am
Neer
 43 

Although you do not call yourself a non-religious Muslim, you present yourself as an Islamofascist.

“Thirdly,solvent and rich Hindus in bangladesh are mostly earning here and building and enriching their assets in India”

Do you have any specific proofs for this other than rants of your Mullahs at your mosque?

“If u raise ur voice against mankind, u shud start from palestine to Iraq”

All you guys care about is Palestine because they are Muslims. What about human rights violations in Africa or Sri Lanka. You wouldn’t care because they are not Muslims.

“the indians tried to separate us from our muslim identity.”

No, they didn’t. Without any valid proofs you can’t keep making such accusations.

It’s not enough just to eat sweets and stuff when you carry such a VICIOUS hatred against Hindus. Thank you, we will keep our sweets to ourselves. You don’t have to eat them.

September 27th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Scion Anjir
 44 

Dear Neer
Thx for your comment.
Well here is yet another comment from me and i guess this might b the last as i accept any criticism based on valid base rather than only accusation.

Your very first line is quite unacceptable. U called me something which could b only applicable to any so called muslim “zihadist”…I could have said: if u can b a hindufacist, i can b also one of ur called “Islamofacist”…but i wont coz i know if a dog bites me its not my turn to bite him coz i m not a dog!
Yes. I have specific proofs of my accusation/raised issue.Which i dont even bother to disclose to u coz i think its not my point to insult ur brotherns.
Yes, we care for our brothers in Palestine coz u support israel to demolish their homes, burn down their mosques, kill their infants…I never said anything abt not supporting Sri Lanka or South Africa…I just said we should support all that is not RIGHT.

And
“the indians tried to separate us from our muslim identity.”—
well u r yet again tried here once more to do the same with ur very 1st line of comment,what else do u want me to say???

Have a nice life …

Adios.

October 1st, 2009 at 10:07 am
Zunaed
 45 

i would love to kick out ‘Bismillah’ from the constitution while it is conflicted constitution.. just kickout..kickout..it won’t matter for ‘Islam’..

October 1st, 2009 at 10:13 am
Avinash
 46 

Islam is a fake religion followed by mother fuckers and bastards

Islam is a terrorist training program which enables muslim mother fuckin bastards to become better terrorists

Muslims fuck their own mothers and sisters and then fuck their street doges too

Muslims are mother fuckin bastards who follow a fake religion known as FUCKLAM

FUCK ISLAM

November 28th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Admin
 47 

Avinash, I can understand you are frustrated however let’s keep this civil.

November 28th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Tree
 48 

Just leave the country. Go to your beloved land India. India is where you belong. Bangladesh does not need you. She is better off without you.

December 11th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Hindu
 49 

Those who respect Muhammed should know that he was a very evil man.
Read http://www.faithfreedom.org

December 13th, 2009 at 2:43 am
tapas
 50 

every religion have some bright side and if we accomodate this in a single religion like hindu or something new then we can create a new world where there is no bombing,no terrorism and no landmark for different countries and this can be done by love, love and only love.

December 16th, 2009 at 4:09 am
Roger
 51 

Dear Tree,

“She is better off without you.”.

In Islamic country you cannot be referred as she. Some true follower of Islam might issue a fatwa against you !

Only in Hinduism people refer country as “she” or “mother kali” or “mother earth” or “bhoo mata”.

January 7th, 2010 at 1:11 am
Duth
 52 

what a fucking things…u wrote ..the lier…..I fuck your whole family

January 8th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
mahmudsoccerU@hotmail.com
 53 

hindus should pack up and leave they have no place in muslim bangla .don’t u get it? we used pakistan to separate from india and they when time was right we used india to get rid of pakistan. and hindus thought just bcoz we separated from pakistan islam is dead well think again! islam is today the state religion and bismillah is the seal of the constitution. even Awami league won’t dare change that bcoz once they do muslim voters will go to BNP. muslims being the 90% of the population.. BNP doesn’t even need HINDU CHRISTIAN BUDDIST VOTE combined to win!! so dear hindus if u want secularism GO to MOTHER INDIA.

January 24th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Neer
 54 

Hmm….your arguments are confusing. Why did you separate from India and then Pakistan? If Islam were to be your first priority then you should not have been separated from Pakistan.

Also, if you did all these things for the sake of sovereignity then why not separate from India directly at the beginning. Y did you have to go through Pakistan?

I am interested to know what you are trying to say.

January 24th, 2010 at 9:38 am
 55 

When do we expect coming of Bhagavan Kalki… an Avatar of present era… a messiah competent to uplift Dharma (righteousness)! In times of strife… when mutual trust amongst each other reaches its lowest ebb… coming of a messiah (Avatar) gets necessitated! Even man gods like Mahavira, Gautama Buddha, Jesus Christ or Prophet Mohammed fail in such circumstances!

Who shall be Bhagavan Kalki is the biggest question! Coming of a man god coupled with powers of Chanakya (most able administrator in history of mankind) is only solution! Humanity looks forward to such a one… an ordinary mortal that against all odds upholds Dharma (righteousness) and succeeds in re-establishing peace tranquility abound!

March 4th, 2010 at 4:27 am
Anuj Sharma
 56 

In order to protect the world from destruction ISLAM word should be rooted out.

April 23rd, 2010 at 6:59 am

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